Kate ([info]x_mass) wrote,
@ 2009-04-17 22:49:00
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Pirate bay is a search engine
Search engines are critical systems in the internet age. Lose access to the search engines and effectively you lose the net. lose the net and you have a virtual impenetrable trade barriers. Please explain how a court can tell difference between indexing different sorts of data, when data can be transposed into any format and when all search engine constantly use other people copyrighted data on their own sites?
from a discussion in the economist

perhaps nothere might like to learn how bit torrent works now. yes once it required a tracker but not any more, tracker is now handled by the people who use the torrent equally the torrent it self can go through tools that hide where the IP is coming from. And bit torrent is relatively open there are many other tools that people could use and they are getting easier all the time.

either way the underlying tech is not important

pirate bay does not have trackers on its site, nor does it supply programs that allow you to use torrents. It explains what to do and provides links but so do many other websites

there is no functional difference between pirate bay and google. If pirate bay is guilty of assisting in copyright theft then an search engine or directory is. That doesn't just mean google or altavista or yahoo, it can equally apply to DNS servers.

Google is breaking copyright far more than pirate bay it after all steals text from sites and displays it on its own site. I came here btw from googles news aggregation site that blatantly steals copyrighted information. What if Google offered trailers for films of shows that automatically took the key points of the film and produced a 10 minute trailer? That's what they currently do with newsprint.


So google is now actionable in Sweden, how many court cases can google stand before it does the sensible thing and simply bars anyone from sweden accessing its services. how long before all search engines do. Try to imagine a net without search engines. Swedish DNS may be safe but I didn't give it permission to index me so I should be able to sue them for damages. if that happens the internet becomes lots of numbers and you had better pray those numbers aren't IPV6.

How long will the Swedish government be willing to live with a virtual impenetrable trade barrier? How long can it and Swedish haemorrhage trade and cash?


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[info]bondagewoodelf
2009-04-17 09:55 pm UTC (link)
pirate bay does not have trackers on its site

Actually, it does. The point they made in the trial though was that the plaintiffs couldn't prove those trackers had been used in the spreading of the 30 copyrighted works that were used in the charges.

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